Perspective, Pontification and Propoganda about Entrepreneurship and Venture Capital, brought to you by David Hornik of Lobby Capital.

« Success Breeds Success | Main | Legally Gray (Observations From My Law School Reunion) »

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Jason Lemkin

I wonder about the value of venture lending at least since 2000 or so.

My experiences in my last two companies suggest limited value. Also, my Ec 101 view of venture lending suggest that they can really only afford to lend to very low risk start-ups, b/c their returns are not THAT great. They simply cannot afford to take substantial risk. So these days many seem to only want to lend to companies who don't really need the money.

Further, many of the leasing companies simply invoke their covenants when things get at all uncomfortable. Perhaps as well they should. But in my experience this means you may not be able to draw down on as much of the instrument as you expected -- or at least when you want to. For example, b/c the implicit interest rates are SO high on these loans (when you consider orgination fees, exit fees, buy back fees, administration fees, etc.), you may want to drawn down as late in the line as possible. The lendors tend to get squeemish here when you have 18 months of runway these days. One reaction is shorter terms (e.g., 24-30 months), which makes these expensive lines even less valuable.

In my most recent company, when we rec'd our venture financing, we had about 24 months of runway. After talking with all the usual suspects, it became clear equipment financing (apart from Dell's) made no sense. It was cheaper to fund the equipment with the very expensive equity dollars we had raised. Most lenders for equipment especially wanted to lend on a 24-30 month schedule at total interest rates which I think were at least 15-18% when you added in all the explicit & hidden fees, probably more. Thus, taking down a line would not have added to our runway at all.

Perhaps in the coming 1-2 years terms will get restrictive, lenders will take a little more risk, and these venture leases will be the decent deal they were back before and during the bubble. But what I've seen in the last 3 years at least suggests that any debt line you'd want, you can't get, and the lines you can get, you don't want.

discount coach

That's great fantastic! I think your blog will brought the house down, I reading your article with much more pleasure. Thanks a lot indeed.

Prada Handbags

I love the idea of a window-like mural. When we finished our basement we put beach scenes in the window wells (poly-coated) with dyed recycled tire "gravel/sand" on the bottom.Anyhow!
Our store offers you all kinds of favourite products like Prada Handbags and Prada Handbags 2010 , Mens Prada Sunglasses with high quality, fashion style and competitive price.

new balance

There is no royal road to science ,and only those who do not dread the fatiguing climb of gaining its numinous summits .

jimmy choo

Jimmy Choo's beginnings can be traced back to his workshop in London Borough of Hackney, North London, which he opened in 1986 by renting an old hospital building.

hsr

In live we have to full of confidence,because Self-confidence and self-reliance are the mainsta

christian louboutin

I have just finished the article.It is the first time for me to read the whole post carefully,I always just look through the article,and forget quickly.But I had save your articl,it is more than useful to me.

Payday Loans

I think this is the general rule of venture lending - all geared towards the long term results.

DEKARONデカロン-RMT

DEKARONデカロン-RMT of a site.rmt ff11 The cost of a site would be how much it costs to run it. The worth of a site is determined mainly by how much revenue the site is bringing in.信長の野望Online RMT Other factors would include how much traffic the site is bringing in on a monthly basis, email subscribers if any,アラド戦記 rmt rmt ドラゴンネスト メイプルストーリー RMT アラド戦記 rmt rmt アラド rmt ff11 信長の野望Online RMT 大航海時代-RMT DEKARONデカロン-RMT

Appetite Suppression

New Diet will make you burn fat. Fast loss will be an important part losing weight healthily. Mint Appetite Suppression help as an a healthy way to control hunger cravings and live well.

Chanel Watches

I can’t agree with you more!

Ed Hardy Discount Clothing

The rationale for this amount of popularity of this product lies within the truth that it has been established because the Range one appetite

baby products

Thank you for sharing. Very happy to see your article, I very much to like and agree with your point of view. Have a good time.

christian louboutin

This post has been somewhat of a revelation to me.

nike shoes

This guy goes to a psychiatrist and says, 'Doc, my brother's crazy,

keylogger Mac

This is my first time i visit here. I found interesting things to many in his blog, mostly to the debate. Of the tons of comments on your articles, I’m not the only one who has all the fun here! Keep up the good work.

Cheap Beats By Dre

. Have a plan, but definitely have a good time at the same time."

wholesale football boots

I have used these shoes mostly on hard court and I'm a strong big guy causing extreme stress on any of my shows

Loans Guarantor

I've just been reading about the mis-adventures of Rand from SEOMoz on his recent Venture Capital experience.

Good reading, it's good that they're so open with what's going on.

Venture lending is always a bit hit and miss.

Moncler Doudoune

It's great to hear from you and see what you've been up to. In your blog I feel your enthusiasm for life. thank you.

Air Jordan Shoes

Wise man have their mouths in their hearts, fools have their hearts in their mouths.

air max shoes

Wise man have their mouths in their hearts, fools have their hearts in their mouths.

cheap beats by dre

cheap beats by dreOhio will be the scene Tuesday for the latest test of the GOP push to curb unions’ power. Voters here are set to roundly reject Republican Gov. John Kasich’s signature achievement — a law curtailing public employees’ collective-bargaining rights. monster beatsThe repeal effort has galvanized President Barack Obama’s base and handed Democrats in this swing state a valuable organizing opportunity one year before the presidential election. dr dre beats
dre beatsObama is still polling badly in Ohio, but his campaign has capitalized on perceived Republican overreach to bring recalcitrant liberals back into the fold and strengthen ties with unions who believe they face an existential threat. monster headphones

Reugwrore

tkotbiqmt ugg uk stockists xcasberwp http://www.consumermortarracks.com

mekberlymoorn

FJWFDPIWEP uggs PYNFCTSKRN http://www.jukeboxalive.com/blog.php?blog_id=4462225

estiNsTip

tm7 cheap uggs online rv0 ugg boots uk sale ho2 http://floyddale49.xanga.com/757689096/meet-your-discount-uggs-boots-upon-profit-conventional-footwear/ kz4 http://www.mypypeline.com/event/description/mple%5F7FD6AF23D6BD9C37 xu8 http://uggbootsuksale60.webnode.it/hogan-better/ wj6 mi0 xu3 zn7

The comments to this entry are closed.